A Dream of Birds.

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ton321
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Sat Dec 23, 2023 1:56 am

 
I was in a deep valley
with cliffs either side
rearing up like history
of a forgotten world,
there were cries of birds
piercing and plaintive,
weaving a  sound
with the needles of  beaks.
 
They were from prehistory;
the first kind of bird
when wings were new
as new-minted  coins,
migrating from lands
before maps were thought of,
out of reach of voices
or progressions of thought;
 
they flew above me
in slow succession
taking their time
in the gathering air,

their cries undulating
like grassy valleys,
in a steady warm wind,
fixed in their certainty-
the hoop of movement,
towards their green goal.
Counting the beats,
Counting the slow heart beats,
The bleeding to death of time in slow heart beats,
Wakeful they lie.

Robert Graves
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Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:29 am

Hi Tony,

I think you've posted this one before, fairly recently? Perhaps you could post the original, to show what's changed?

Cheers,
John
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Sat Dec 23, 2023 4:21 am

John

This is the original as far as I can tell......

Tony
Counting the beats,
Counting the slow heart beats,
The bleeding to death of time in slow heart beats,
Wakeful they lie.

Robert Graves
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Sun Dec 24, 2023 4:45 pm

This seems like a great and generous vision, Tony. A welcome thing in this dark season of the year.

Happy Christmas.

David
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Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:05 pm

I enjoyed the sentiment, the possibilities...

I think the poem was let down by unnecessary repetition?

'History' 'Pre-History' 'new as new-minted coins' 'thought of' 'thought'

It seems a mixture of visions not quite tightened up enough?

A good first draft though.

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TS
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Sun Dec 24, 2023 11:40 pm

I like it. I particularly like:
ton321 wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2023 1:56 am
weaving a  sound
with the needles of  beaks.
S2 is a little clunky to my ear and could do with some work.. Personally, I'd get shot of L1 and L4. 'Prehistory' seems a bit superfluous when you have L2 doing that same job but more poetically. Same with L4, L3 does the job perfectly well (and I'm not sure that new-minted coins works as a simile for wings, does it?)

All the best,
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Mon Dec 25, 2023 2:35 am

Thanks David, appreciate the kindness of response.

Stranger- I can see the repetition , but it was kind of meant to be like that, sorry if you didn't like that.
Thanks for the comments Nash, it's appreciated that you took a look.




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Last edited by ton321 on Mon Dec 25, 2023 3:34 am, edited 1 time in total.
Counting the beats,
Counting the slow heart beats,
The bleeding to death of time in slow heart beats,
Wakeful they lie.

Robert Graves
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Mon Dec 25, 2023 3:27 am

David wrote:
Sun Dec 24, 2023 4:45 pm
Happy Christmas.

David
Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas! Christmas is a time to be merry and miserable, not happy! You Brits have been watching too much Mary Berry, the only person who really loves Christmas.

It's not a bad poem, Tony. I think the language needs tweaking in places, and some of the images. Even though they are slightly different words, history/prehistory sound redundant. "The first kind of bird/new minted coins" -- do those images work together? I'm not sure. Birds flying in slow succession -- do "flying" and "slow succession" make sense? I think of flying as a fast activity. You might try to make the language a little more rhythmic.
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Mon Dec 25, 2023 3:45 am

It's a kind of conscious grappling with the unconscious. Thanks for looking in Caleb.

Tony
Counting the beats,
Counting the slow heart beats,
The bleeding to death of time in slow heart beats,
Wakeful they lie.

Robert Graves
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Mon Dec 25, 2023 5:09 am

Hi Tony,

It still feels like I’ve seen this? Nice poem, anyway!

Cheers,
John
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