Impression of a Waterfall (pastel painting) Final revised

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The upper white section is darker than this. It looks like there's a torrent pouring over the upper rocks but most of the shading hasn't been caught. The pic's also a bit out of focus. Not to worry, it's only an experiment, like all of my pastel efforts. This one looks better from a distance. About three miles. :)

To put things into perspective, I spend about thirty hours on a portrait (on and off) and this pic took about two. They say go with your first impression, so I did. :lol:

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PS

Added a bit more and revised certain areas. Original first.

The fixative darkened the picture considerably so I've introduced some more highlights and shade to try to develop depth. Introduced the mists and lightly fixed again. I might apply more colour or I might just call this finished. Hmmm.
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Sun Oct 09, 2016 6:45 pm

I like it. It's got a sort of Lost World effect which I enjoy. I can almost see Professor Challenger. (Was that his name?)

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David wrote:I like it. It's got a sort of Lost World effect which I enjoy. I can almost see Professor Challenger. (Was that his name?)

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Thanks, David

It's a small sketch on A4 honeycomb paper, which I don't like, but I wanted to find out how well the pastel would take.
I'm trying to get a feel for water and how it moves. It's a tad flat in places and lacking in detail here and there but it
has helped me. I think. :)

Professor Challenger was indeed his name. It does have a prehistoric feel and all is not as innocent as it looks.

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Thu Oct 13, 2016 8:34 am

I also like it, and I think if I could see the shading at the back I'd like it even more...
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Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:16 pm

You spent two hours on this!
Wow.
Well done you.
I've worked with pastels.
They ain't easy.

I love the foliage.
Very convincing ferns.
Confident strokes.

The waterfall lets you down.
I like how you've clouded the foam of the backwater
but the meltwater squiggles are too obvious.

Wanna tip?
To get texture, I dip my pastel in water and drag it down.
You can also use hairspray.
Try it.
You can get great effects.
I like the picture.
You've done a great job, but those obviouse white squiggles spoil it for me.
Just saying :)
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Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:52 pm

bodkin wrote:I also like it, and I think if I could see the shading at the back I'd like it even more...
Thanks, Ian. I'll see if I can get a better pic.

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Sun Oct 16, 2016 7:01 pm

Thanks Pauline, for looking at this exercise for me. Appreciated.
Pauline wrote:You spent two hours on this! ...Yes, but it's only on A4. I'm currently completing an A3 charcoal portrait and I'm chewing my fingers down to the bone with frustration. It's a portrait of a young Dorothy Wordsworth, but there are no pic's of her, save for one silhouette and one drawing/painting of her as a woman in her sixties. To make matters worse, she'd lost all her teeth by then so her lips curl under her nose. Consequently, I'm using descriptions and the available material as markers. In other words, I'm guessing. :D
Wow.
Well done you.
I've worked with pastels.
They ain't easy.

I love the foliage.
Very convincing ferns.
Confident strokes.

The waterfall lets you down.
I like how you've clouded the foam of the backwater
but the meltwater squiggles are too obvious. ...There's no meltwater. Does it look frozen? The transition is a bit rough, I think.

Wanna tip?
To get texture, I dip my pastel in water and drag it down. ...I'll try that. Thanks!
You can also use hairspray.
Try it.
You can get great effects.
I like the picture.
You've done a great job, but those obviouse white squiggles spoil it for me. ...Do you mean the squiggles over the rocks at the bottom?
Just saying :) ..And please keep on just saying.
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Sun Oct 30, 2016 1:52 pm

Second revision at the bottom. It's coming along.

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Sun Oct 30, 2016 6:23 pm

WOW.
JJWilliamson wrote:It's coming along.
It certainly is.
Massively.
In fact, it's not coming along, it's got there.
You've added more colour,depth and energy to it.

The fuller ferns in the foreground have pushed the cliff and waterfall back.
There's a strength to the water now.
The squiggles have gone (yay) and I can almost hear the power of the water cascading over the cliff edge.

Your highlights and shadows throughout the painting are spot on.
Your trees are lush and dense.
Yep, a truly believable scene
I love it JJ.
I think it's great. :)
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Sun Oct 30, 2016 6:27 pm

PS.
You've signed it.
You know it's finished. :wink:
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Tue Nov 01, 2016 12:18 pm

Pauline wrote:PS.
You've signed it.
You know it's finished. :wink:
Ha, ha!! I'll sign anything, me.

Thanks for returning to this one, Pauline, appreciated.

Really pleased you think it's an improvement and I am more or less finished.
I've just fixed it and as usual some of the highlights have dulled slightly. But never fear
it's easy enough to put them back and they aren't that bad anyway.

The final addition will be a light mist (LIGHT!) at the bottom of the falls,
to hint at humidity, once the fixative's dried.

The revisions took longer to complete than the entire original did. :)

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JJWilliamson wrote:Ha, ha!! I'll sign anything, me.
:lol:
JJWilliamson wrote:The final addition will be a light mist (LIGHT!) at the bottom of the falls,
to hint at humidity, once the fixative's dried.
Good luck :)
Look forward to seeing it.

Don't ya just hate when you spray your picture and it goes ten shades darker than the original.(slight exageration)
Hairy moments waiting for it to dry out.
It usally works out ok with strong colours, but I find white usually sinks into the paper/canvas and comes out rather dull/ almost pale grey.
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JJWilliamson wrote:The revisions took longer to complete than the entire original did.
Worth it though. :)
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Wed Nov 02, 2016 8:39 pm

I know a lot of people refuse to use fixative for the very reasons you mention, Pauline.

I've had to redo the highlights but I'm still happy enough with the outcome.

Experimented with mists and will apply tomorrow. I'll need that luck you threw my way. :)

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