https://poetrysociety.org.uk/event/judy-skype-oct/
Not my thing, but just in case anyone is interested.
I do have two of her books, both of which are full of surprises: Crowd Sensations and Loudness
cheers
mac
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There is a YouTube of her reciting a poem, I can't post a link but search for 'Judy Brown Poem' and you will find it. She is good. No doubt an interesting experiment to chat with her if you want to.