Keith and k-j's conversation yesterday about editing posted poems reminded me that this was an issue I wanted to raise with you all. I think it would be helpful if we had a site policy on this.
I agree that it can be very confusing when a poem has been edited and therefore the original comments/crits no longer make sense. I would therefore be in favour of either:
1) Re-posting the revised poem on the same thread, but leaving the original untouched.
or
2) Re-posting the poem on an entirely new thread with the words "2nd Draft" (or something) in the title. Perhaps there needs to be a minimum time period for re-drafting so that people don't just bung them straight back on??
Please let me know what you think.
This is an important issue which (if resolved) will (I feel) inhance the constructive process.
Please respond.
Thanks
Cam
To Edit or Not to Edit??
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twoleftfeet
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Hi Cam,
Being new to the site I don't even know how to edit posts!
(but that's another story...)
How about, as a 3rd alternative,
"editing" the first post by bunging the new version on the
end (with a date and time) ?
It is educational to read the critiques, but they make make no sense if
the original text has been replaced.
Conversely some people may read the first draft, decide they don't
like it and not bother to check if there is another one further down
the thread or elsewhere.
Geoff
Being new to the site I don't even know how to edit posts!
(but that's another story...)
How about, as a 3rd alternative,
"editing" the first post by bunging the new version on the
end (with a date and time) ?
It is educational to read the critiques, but they make make no sense if
the original text has been replaced.
Conversely some people may read the first draft, decide they don't
like it and not bother to check if there is another one further down
the thread or elsewhere.
Geoff
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cameron
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Thanks for replying Geoff.
There's an 'edit' button - top right - which allows forum members to edit their own posts.
Hadn't thought of your idea. Sounds good, but one problem is that this wouldn't bump the thread up as a 'New Post' unless the person also posted a reply at the bottom. (i think)
Will ponder.
Cam
There's an 'edit' button - top right - which allows forum members to edit their own posts.
Hadn't thought of your idea. Sounds good, but one problem is that this wouldn't bump the thread up as a 'New Post' unless the person also posted a reply at the bottom. (i think)
Will ponder.
Cam
I'm the worst transgressor here, and shall comply with the new procedure. Also, just an idea, putting (edited) in the subject box of the topic would be nice.
"Don't treat your common sense like an umbrella. When you come into a room to philosophize, don't leave it outside, but bring it in with you." Wittgenstein
Its not my intention to rock the poets graves boat, but isnt there a danger of the 'poet' becoming advertently ( new word ) subjective here?
I appreciate ' we are all here to learn ' but arent we in danger of following a communal acceptability?
I mean where would it end? revisions of revisions?
My greatest fear is that eventually all the posters would meld into one idea of what is acceptable.
Of course its the posters choice. Just keep subjectivity out of it...please.
Isnt a simple 'edited as advised' enough after relevant critique?
I appreciate ' we are all here to learn ' but arent we in danger of following a communal acceptability?
I mean where would it end? revisions of revisions?
My greatest fear is that eventually all the posters would meld into one idea of what is acceptable.
Of course its the posters choice. Just keep subjectivity out of it...please.
Isnt a simple 'edited as advised' enough after relevant critique?
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Thanks everyone. I'll add something to the rules.
I don't want to make this a hanging offense - but I do feel that it would help to make things clearer. (For example, there was a recent poem of Barrie's where I suggested removing the last line. He agreed and edited his poem but then others came on later saying 'yes' take off the line but this wasn't the line I was talking about.)
Minst - I wouldn't want people editing ad nauseum; the best approach is really to gather in all the crits and then if you want to re-post (no obligation at all) is to spend some time re-drafting and then re-present it.
Liked the idea of a poetsgraves boat - might get one.
Cam
I don't want to make this a hanging offense - but I do feel that it would help to make things clearer. (For example, there was a recent poem of Barrie's where I suggested removing the last line. He agreed and edited his poem but then others came on later saying 'yes' take off the line but this wasn't the line I was talking about.)
Minst - I wouldn't want people editing ad nauseum; the best approach is really to gather in all the crits and then if you want to re-post (no obligation at all) is to spend some time re-drafting and then re-present it.
Liked the idea of a poetsgraves boat - might get one.
Cam
Is that supposed to protect everyone's right to their own opinion on the matter?
Won't they kind of have one anyway?
Won't they kind of have one anyway?
"Don't treat your common sense like an umbrella. When you come into a room to philosophize, don't leave it outside, but bring it in with you." Wittgenstein